Comments on: Astrology of the 2008 Election – Birth Data Problems http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/ The best astrology blog in the world. Seriously. Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:23:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: What Astrologers Learned From the 2008 Election « The Political Astrology Blog http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-2075 What Astrologers Learned From the 2008 Election « The Political Astrology Blog Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:10:49 +0000 http://apotelesmatics.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/#comment-2075 [...] January 6th, 2008 I published an article detailing who we did and did not have confirmed birth times for, as well as some of the problems with the birth times that were currently in use at that point.  [...] [...] January 6th, 2008 I published an article detailing who we did and did not have confirmed birth times for, as well as some of the problems with the birth times that were currently in use at that point.  [...]

]]> By: Hillary Clinton’s Birth Chart | The Horoscopic Astrology Blog http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-448 Hillary Clinton’s Birth Chart | The Horoscopic Astrology Blog Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:12:59 +0000 http://apotelesmatics.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/#comment-448 [...] Update: See my latest article on birth data problems in the 2008 election. [...] [...] Update: See my latest article on birth data problems in the 2008 election. [...]

]]> By: Maggie Meister http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-319 Maggie Meister Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:45:24 +0000 http://apotelesmatics.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/#comment-319 Hi Chris, Yes I have those, thanks. Interesting the Sabian symbol for that ascendant is: " Sabian symbol for Asc 5 Pi 59 > OFFICERS ON DRESS PARADE > You may feel that recognition is being given for service and > dedication to the community. It is a time to be aware of duty, honor > and the protection of higher ideals. Dedication, discipline and duty > bring their own rewards. National pride being displayed. If negative > - something `stiff' and unfeeling about the display. Having special privileges that other's don't. Best, Maggie Hi Chris,

Yes I have those, thanks. Interesting the Sabian symbol for that ascendant is:

” Sabian symbol for Asc 5 Pi 59

> OFFICERS ON DRESS PARADE
> You may feel that recognition is being given for service and
> dedication to the community. It is a time to be aware of duty, honor
> and the protection of higher ideals. Dedication, discipline and duty
> bring their own rewards. National pride being displayed. If negative
> – something `stiff’ and unfeeling about the display. Having special privileges that other’s don’t.

Best, Maggie

]]> By: Chris Brennan http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-311 Chris Brennan Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:11:56 +0000 http://apotelesmatics.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/#comment-311 Thanks Maggie! I should note that a birth certificate for John McCain has recently appeared, and it gives a birth time of 6:25 PM: http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/unique_astrology/Unsorted/?action=view&current=McCainBC.gif Additionally, since I wrote this article last year, Obama's birth certificate has also become available, and it lists a birth time of 7:24 PM: http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg Thanks Maggie!

I should note that a birth certificate for John McCain has recently appeared, and it gives a birth time of 6:25 PM: http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/unique_astrology/Unsorted/?action=view&current=McCainBC.gif

Additionally, since I wrote this article last year, Obama’s birth certificate has also become available, and it lists a birth time of 7:24 PM: http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg

]]> By: Maggie Meister http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-310 Maggie Meister Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:04:18 +0000 http://apotelesmatics.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/#comment-310 Hi Chris, You said: "According to the same article, Joseph Biden’s birth time is 8:30 am apparently. This comes from Marion March, who got it from someone else named Celeste Longacre, who says that it came from him in ‘Welcome to Planet Earth’, whatever that is." Celeste Longacre was collecting data for a long time - I remember from back in the late 1970's. She's from NH I think. Welcome to Planet Earth was a newspaper/magazine published by Mark Lerner http://www.marklernerastrology.com/home/ml1/smartlist_19 from around 1980 until 2000. Jim Lewis was a fan (or he was a fan of Jim's) and so of course there was great interest in mundane astrology. IIRC, Mark was the one who made the connection with the early mutables and plane crashes as well as the square to the eclipse point in quakes. (memory's fuzzy here) Frances McEvoy was one of the great data collectors of my era along with Lois Rodden, Marion March, Ed Steinbrecher, Grazia Bordoni (in Italy) and Alois Treindel. Like Marion March, she knew personally many of the celebs whose data she collected. Thanks for your honest search for the proper birthdata. Good job! Hi Chris,

You said:

“According to the same article, Joseph Biden’s birth time is 8:30 am apparently. This comes from Marion March, who got it from someone else named Celeste Longacre, who says that it came from him in ‘Welcome to Planet Earth’, whatever that is.”

Celeste Longacre was collecting data for a long time – I remember from back in the late 1970’s. She’s from NH I think.

Welcome to Planet Earth was a newspaper/magazine published by Mark Lerner http://www.marklernerastrology.com/home/ml1/smartlist_19 from around 1980 until 2000. Jim Lewis was a fan (or he was a fan of Jim’s) and so of course there was great interest in mundane astrology. IIRC, Mark was the one who made the connection with the early mutables and plane crashes as well as the square to the eclipse point in quakes. (memory’s fuzzy here)

Frances McEvoy was one of the great data collectors of my era along with Lois Rodden, Marion March, Ed Steinbrecher, Grazia Bordoni (in Italy) and Alois Treindel. Like Marion March, she knew personally many of the celebs whose data she collected.

Thanks for your honest search for the proper birthdata. Good job!

]]> By: Sarah Palin’s Birth Time « The Horoscopic Astrology Blog http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-329 Sarah Palin’s Birth Time « The Horoscopic Astrology Blog Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:32:22 +0000 http://apotelesmatics.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/#comment-329 [...] presidential election is only a few weeks away and we appear to have reliable birth data for Obama, McCain and Biden at this point, although there is still one missing piece:  we don’t have a reliable birth [...] [...] presidential election is only a few weeks away and we appear to have reliable birth data for Obama, McCain and Biden at this point, although there is still one missing piece:  we don’t have a reliable birth [...]

]]> By: Alberta http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-314 Alberta Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:10:23 +0000 http://apotelesmatics.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/#comment-314 Barack Obama's birth certificate has been published on his website under smears. It shows him born at 7:24 P.M. in Honolulu Hawaii on August 4, 1961 Barack Obama’s birth certificate has been published on his website under smears. It shows him born at 7:24 P.M. in Honolulu Hawaii on August 4, 1961

]]> By: Astrologers Election « Astrology The Science http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-313 Astrologers Election « Astrology The Science Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:27:27 +0000 http://apotelesmatics.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/#comment-313 [...] with caution with respect to predictions about the election a few months ago in my article on birth data issues in the 2008 election. I’ve been hearing reports for a while now that a number of Indian astrologers were saying that [...] [...] with caution with respect to predictions about the election a few months ago in my article on birth data issues in the 2008 election. I’ve been hearing reports for a while now that a number of Indian astrologers were saying that [...]

]]> By: Reflections on the United Astrology Conference - UAC 2008 « The Horoscopic Astrology Blog http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-330 Reflections on the United Astrology Conference - UAC 2008 « The Horoscopic Astrology Blog Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:32:50 +0000 http://apotelesmatics.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/#comment-330 [...] with caution with respect to predictions about the election a few months ago in my article on birth data issues in the 2008 election. I’ve been hearing reports for a while now that a number of Indian astrologers were saying [...] [...] with caution with respect to predictions about the election a few months ago in my article on birth data issues in the 2008 election. I’ve been hearing reports for a while now that a number of Indian astrologers were saying [...]

]]> By: Chris Brennan http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-328 Chris Brennan Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:41:48 +0000 http://apotelesmatics.com/2008/01/06/astrology-of-the-2008-election-birth-data-problems/#comment-328 Hi Steven, A new time for Obama was recently revealed at a major astrology conference a few weeks ago by an astrologer who apparently had close contacts with his campaign. The new time that everyone is using is 7:11 PM, with Aquarius rising. This is of course precisely the reason why I wrote the article cautioning people about making definite predictions based on the data that was in circulation. I hope to have a new article up about what happened at the conference soon. Hi Steven,

A new time for Obama was recently revealed at a major astrology conference a few weeks ago by an astrologer who apparently had close contacts with his campaign. The new time that everyone is using is 7:11 PM, with Aquarius rising. This is of course precisely the reason why I wrote the article cautioning people about making definite predictions based on the data that was in circulation. I hope to have a new article up about what happened at the conference soon.

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