Comments on: Fate, Free Will and Determinism in Astrology http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/03/03/fate-free-will-and-determinism-in-astrology/ The best astrology blog in the world. Seriously. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:32:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Radu http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/03/03/fate-free-will-and-determinism-in-astrology/#comment-355 Radu Tue, 06 May 2008 08:56:42 +0000 http://apotelesmatics.wordpress.com/?p=265#comment-355 Hi Chris While I totally agree that "awareness can give you greater control over your perception of events, and this awareness makes you more of a willing participant or co-creator with you own fate", accepting the these influences and positively blending them in one's life is a different thing. Astrology alone is little helpful, unless it is merged into a greater system of higher knowledge. Astrology seems to offer only some input data, but in order to "take control" of one's fate (an inappropriate expression) one needs to understand more than that. Deep spirituality should be accompanying astrology into what may be called "the art of living". Hi Chris

While I totally agree that “awareness can give you greater control over your perception of events, and this awareness makes you more of a willing participant or co-creator with you own fate”, accepting the these influences and positively blending them in one’s life is a different thing.

Astrology alone is little helpful, unless it is merged into a greater system of higher knowledge. Astrology seems to offer only some input data, but in order to “take control” of one’s fate (an inappropriate expression) one needs to understand more than that. Deep spirituality should be accompanying astrology into what may be called “the art of living”.

]]> By: Michelle http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/03/03/fate-free-will-and-determinism-in-astrology/#comment-354 Michelle Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:31:31 +0000 http://apotelesmatics.wordpress.com/?p=265#comment-354 I feel each one has a chance to gain at least partial degree of awareness even with a simple chart but sure there are those with the thirst for knowledge especially self knowledge that are more likely to enter the journey of being the masters of their lives and usually they have more options in the map to create changes I feel each one has a chance to gain at least partial degree of awareness even with a simple chart but sure there are those with the thirst for knowledge especially self knowledge that are more likely to enter the journey of being the masters of their lives and usually they have more options in the map to create changes

]]> By: [占星哲學]自由意志與命定論 | 子辰的古典占星與文王卦書房 http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/03/03/fate-free-will-and-determinism-in-astrology/#comment-353 [占星哲學]自由意志與命定論 | 子辰的古典占星與文王卦書房 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:00:33 +0000 http://apotelesmatics.wordpress.com/?p=265#comment-353 [...] Chris Brennan是一個很年輕的占星學家，子辰曾經上過他的課，對其運用希臘哲學史觀來解釋占星學深深感佩。他前陣子寫了一篇「Fate, Free Will and Determinism in Astrology」的文章，我認為很值得參考。他說絕大多數的占星家都大致同意占星學是建立在命定論（Determinism）的基礎上，然而卻不太瞭解命定的含意。他引了一段希臘思多益學派（Stoicism，註）創始成員Zeno與Chrysippus的說法： …所有事物皆遵循命運的軌跡，命運就像一條狗被綁在車子上一樣，如果狗兒決定追隨車子，即便出於自願，它還是會被拉著走。如果它不跟著車子，它也是會被拉著走。人也一樣，即便很多事非出於自願，結果還是逃離不出命運的軌跡…(Long & Sedley, The Hellenistic Philosophers, 62A) [...] [...] Chris Brennan是一個很年輕的占星學家，子辰曾經上過他的課，對其運用希臘哲學史觀來解釋占星學深深感佩。他前陣子寫了一篇「Fate, Free Will and Determinism in Astrology」的文章，我認為很值得參考。他說絕大多數的占星家都大致同意占星學是建立在命定論（Determinism）的基礎上，然而卻不太瞭解命定的含意。他引了一段希臘思多益學派（Stoicism，註）創始成員Zeno與Chrysippus的說法： …所有事物皆遵循命運的軌跡，命運就像一條狗被綁在車子上一樣，如果狗兒決定追隨車子，即便出於自願，它還是會被拉著走。如果它不跟著車子，它也是會被拉著走。人也一樣，即便很多事非出於自願，結果還是逃離不出命運的軌跡…(Long & Sedley, The Hellenistic Philosophers, 62A) [...]

]]> By: Chris Brennan http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/03/03/fate-free-will-and-determinism-in-astrology/#comment-351 Chris Brennan Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:07:35 +0000 http://apotelesmatics.wordpress.com/?p=265#comment-351 Good point Barbara. Good point Barbara.

]]> By: Barbara Haines http://horoscopicastrologyblog.com/2008/03/03/fate-free-will-and-determinism-in-astrology/#comment-352 Barbara Haines Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:54:20 +0000 http://apotelesmatics.wordpress.com/?p=265#comment-352 Hello Chris, Having awareness would also be inherent in one,s chart, so once again, to be aware or not, is one,s fate, so are we not also being carried along for the ride. Awareness itself can also be an illusion that changes over time, even the concept of fate or freewill. TIME ITSELF, is what? does it realy exist? I rather think not. Off I go rambling along, everything seems to interconnect. Regards barbara Hello Chris, Having awareness would also be inherent in one,s chart, so once again, to be aware or not, is one,s fate, so are we not also being carried along for the ride. Awareness itself can also be an illusion that changes over time, even the concept of fate or freewill. TIME ITSELF, is what? does it realy exist? I rather think not. Off I go rambling along, everything seems to interconnect. Regards barbara

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